User talk:Kmdenmark/Old messages

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-- Kmdenmark (talk) 18:13, March 9, 2021 (UTC)[edit source | reply | new]

Replace text tasks[edit source | reply | new]

User:Kmdenmark Can you use Special:ReplaceText to do the following tasks to tidy things up on multiple pages: (ignore the nowiki tags)

4. Replace links to a renamed category- in (main) and Category namespaces only: replace:



Category:Sleep aids and hypnotics]]

Corrected request to new name ~Njt (talk) 03:04, March 7, 2021 (UTC)

Njt ✓ Done I think@ ;) Kmdenmark (talk) 18:10, March 9, 2021 (UTC)

5. In the (main) article space, the Category one and the MEpedia one,
replace the references with only a single blank line between them, replace once per page only, if there is an option to search as code turn use that, use source view to copy the lines:

  • :{{Done}} ~~~~ ==References== <references />
  • with:
    ==References== {{Reflist}}
    Example of a page that needs doing : Eligio_Pizzigallo.

Thanks. ~Njt (talk) 20:49, March 2, 2021 (UTC)

Completed[edit source | reply | new]

3. In the (main), Category and MEpedia namespaces only: replace:

]] </nowiki>

with just:


There is no space between the ]] and the "nowiki" - I'm not sure why but it looks there is on viewing this page. If there is an option to treat what you are searching for as code then use that

6. In the (main) article space, the Category one and the MEpedia one,
replace the references with only a single blank line between them, replace once by page only, use source view to copy the lines:

  • <references> </references>
  • with:
    Example of a page that needs doing : Fibrin.

7. Do the same as no 6, but without the empty line in the middle (there might not be any of these) - In the (main) article space, the Category one and the MEpedia one,
replace the references with only a single blank line between them:

  • <references> </references>
  • with:

8. *In the MEpedia and Category namespace *In the Category namespace only - you so have to tick the boxes to search these -



Example page: Category:Copyright_violations

  • In the Category namespace only only - you so have to tick the boxes to search categories -



    {{empty category}}

Example page:

  • In the Category namespace replace:




Example page: Category:CC-BY-NC-4.0 Thanks ~Njt (talk) 15:22, March 3, 2021 (UTC) Those changes look great. Smiley face Thanks User:Kmdenmark ~Njt (talk) 03:01, March 7, 2021 (UTC)

1. *In the Category namespace only: replace:




  • In the Category namespace only



    {{empty category}}
  • In the Category namespace only replace:




2. In the (main) article space, the Category one and the MEpedia one,
replace the references with only a single blank line between them:

  • <references> </references>
  • with: {{Reflist}}

Thanks ~Njt (talk) 15:52, February 27, 2021 (UTC)

Hi Njt, I changed hiddencat, but the other ones must have already been changed because no pages were found for the other tasks. Kmdenmark (talk)
That's great. Smiley face Thanks

Spammer to ban[edit source | reply | new]

User:Kmdenmark Please can you ban User:Goose3handle. Thanks ~Njt (talk) 16:12, June 26, 2020 (EDT)

✓ Done Smiley face Thanks Kmdenmark (talk) 00:25, June 27, 2020 (EDT)

____ Think this might need a ban User:Kmdenmark ~Njt (talk) 19:56, May 29, 2020 (EDT)

Banned by Jaimes ~Njt (talk) 16:12, June 26, 2020 (EDT)

Researchers living overseas[edit source | reply | new]

Hi. Marco Loggia is Italian but working in the US, is there a category got Italian nationality? Do I move him to US researchers? He's currently in the Italy researchers category but not in Italy. ~Njt (talk) 20:22, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

Re: Researchers living overseas -- 22:15, May 4, 2020 (EDT)[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Njt, As I understand it, the researchers are put in categories for the country that they are working because where the research is done may inform the type of research more than where they are born. I think it was considered more important when some countries were only committed to funding psychology studies. It may be a bit of an anachronism since biomedical studies dominate just about everywhere now.
Regarding Dr Loggia, I would put him in the US category or in both Italy and US if he’s done research in both. There are quite a few researchers in the US cat who are originally from outside the US. Hope all is well. 22:15, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

Converting website references / citoid problem[edit source | reply | new]

I noticed yesterday that there is a problem with a number of websites (possibly all of them!) that mean the converting of the website reference generates invalid wiki code that isn't picked up as an error, e.g. Martin Pall's page has 2 incorrect authors for the article, one of which has 2007 for the second author's surname. I don't think it's anything in our code - although perhaps User:Pyrrhus can confirm that - but wanted to let you know. I fixed many yesterday but will have missed loads too. I found the error happening from Jan 2020 but it might have been earlier.

Is there a way to find all Cite web references that include numbers for one name fields? For the moment I've added this to MEpedia:Known bugs. ~Njt (talk) 13:38, April 6, 2020 (PDT)

Re: Converting website references / citoid problem -- Kmdenmark (talk) 12:16, April 7, 2020 (PDT)[edit source | reply | new]

Njt Let me check around the site and get back to you. :) Kmdenmark (talk) 12:16, April 7, 2020 (PDT)

Re: Converting website references / citoid problem -- 22:18, May 4, 2020 (EDT)[edit source | reply | new]

Thanks for alerting me about this issue. I hadn’t noticed before. I will definitely keep an eye out for it. 22:18, May 4, 2020 (EDT)

New theory of cfs[edit source | reply | new]

Hi. I have a new theory of cfs. I don't know if this is the best forum, but I'd love it if you'd take a look:

Thanks! - Tom

Welcome to MEpedia. I think the best place for a write-up about your theory would be as a medical hypotheses. Check Category:Medical hypotheses for examples. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:35, November 18, 2019 (EST)

Hi Karen! A quick note: When you go to protect a page, there is an option that says "Protect pages included in this page (cascading protection)". When we choose cascading protection, it will protect the page as well as any templates included in the page. Just to clarify, we do NOT typically want this option. Only in very rare cases might we want cascading protection, but in most cases, we will not want cascading protection. Hope this helps!
Pyrrhus (talk) 21:28, October 5, 2019 (EDT)

Ok, thanks for the heads up. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:25, October 7, 2019 (EDT)

Custom stub messages[edit source | reply | new]

User:Kmdenmark Can you do these system messages by just copying and pasting the new code across. ~Njt (talk) 18:08, October 8, 2019 (EDT)


Did it but it seemed wrong so undid it.Kmdenmark (talk) 16:16, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
sorry, this should have asked for MediaWiki:Pagetriage-tags-stub-label/de to be set to Stummel. I've updated the info now. The others were requests to create new MediaWiki:This-page-is-a messages, I will update below to make it clearer. Sorry for the confusion. ~Njt (talk) 18:06, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
✓ Done I added a period to "Dit artikel is een beginnetje $1" because all the others had it. If it needs to be removed, let me now. Kmdenmark (talk) 15:58, October 11, 2019 (EDT)
  • Please create the follow system messages (ignore the "pre" tag), taking care not to copy include any leading or trailing spaces.
I need more instructions. Do you want the following message on the page MediaWiki:Pagetriage-tags-stub-label? Kmdenmark (talk) 16:16, October 10, 2019 (EDT)
Thanks User:Kmdenmark. They look great. I made a mistake with one though, could you change MediaWiki:This-page-is-a/nl to:

Dit artikel is een $1.

Thanks ~Njt (talk) 16:37, October 11, 2019 (EDT)

All done now, thanks :-) ~Njt (talk) 18:50, October 11, 2019 (EDT)


This page is a $1.


Dieser Artikel ist ein $1.


Cette entrée est considérée comme une $1.


El contenido de esta página es un $1.


Dit artikel is een beginnetje $1


This article is a [[MEpedia:Stub|stub]].


Dieser Artikel ist ein [[MEpedia:Stub|Stummel]] („Stub“).


El contenido de esta página es un [ esbozo] ("stub").


Cette entrée est considérée comme une [ ébauche à compléter] («Stub»).


Dit artikel is een [[MEpedia:stub|beginnetje]] ("Stub").

Replace text - neurological disease[edit source | reply | new]

Hi. Can you please use replace text to update a renamed category:

  • from "Category:Neurological disorders" to "Category:Neurological diseases", and

If you can avoid adding the square brackets then this will change links to the category - [[:Category:Neurological disorders]] - as well as the pages that are in it. Thanks ~Njt (talk) 13:01, October 7, 2019 (EDT)

Another option is to combine the categories as "Category:Neurological diseases and disorders." I think that "disorder" is more accurate for some of the pages. E.g., Intracranial hypotension is a disorder resulting from various diseases, but is not considered a disease unto itself. Combining the categories will make it easier for people without medical backgrounds who may not understand the difference between the two classifications. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:25, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
I wanted to go by the ICD really, which has "Diseases of the nervous system", or "Signs and symptoms" - which would go under symptoms not a neurological disease. I checked on Intracranial hypotension and it's under Diseases of the nervous system, and a subcategory for Other nervous disorders - so actually classed as both. I cave just recall what we are doing with making for non-neurological categories. I think there's a musculoskeletal one plus mental disorders. I think it's best to do the same for all, so if you wanted to do diseases or disorders for all that would be fine. ~Njt (talk) 17:32, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
I'm going to change the category to "Neurological diseases and disorders." I think that classification would be the easiest for further editors. In the US, the ICD is viewed mostly as a taxonomy for billing codes for Medicare & Medicaid. US professional medical organizations have their own taxonomies and they are resistant to forfeiting that independence to an international committee.
Re: the example I gave about intracranial hypotension which is listed under G97. The codes for diagnoses listed in G97 is specifically listed as "complications and disorders of nervous system." I think the more accurate way to read it is that the listed disorders are carve outs from the list of diseases. Kmdenmark (talk) 12:51, October 9, 2019 (EDT)
Can you also use replace text to change "Category:Musculoskeletal disorders" "Category:Musculoskeletal diseases and disorders". User:Kmdenmark. Thanks. Also do we change thyroid category to thyroid diseases and disorders? ~Njt (talk) 15:20, October 9, 2019 (EDT)
I think the thyroid category can stay as it is because the only articles in the category are for diseases. Kmdenmark (talk) 18:24, October 9, 2019 (EDT)
Smiley face Thanks ~Njt (talk) 18:48, October 11, 2019 (EDT)

Citations needed[edit source | reply | new]

Can you please use the Replace text tool to replace all <ref>Reference needed</ref> with {{Citations needed}}. Thanks ~Njt (talk) 01:20, October 4, 2019 (EDT)

✓ Done
Pyrrhus (talk) 00:11, October 6, 2019 (EDT) Smiley face Thanks User:Pyrrhus ~Njt (talk) 13:01, October 7, 2019 (EDT)

Bulk import requests[edit source | reply | new]

Hi User:Kmdenmark. Are you able to do some bulk imports from XML files? User_talk:Notjusttired/cleanup#mediawiki:Pagetriage-tags-cleanup-desc User_talk:Notjusttired/cleanup contains several, each under different headings. If you scroll up from that link there's instructions, but basically start with a file exported from Special:Export, then delete the contents, and paste the new code over the top (without the "pre" sections). Then save and use Special:Import to add. There should be under 100 in each file. I think if it only does part it will let you use the same file again, but skip those already done. Njt (talk) 18:56, September 25, 2019 (EDT)

Page semi-protection[edit source | reply | new]

Hi. Do you have time to work through the list of pages to semi-protect? Currently in Slack. Njt (talk) 15:46, September 20, 2019 (EDT)

I added protection to most of the list. Several pages I left unprotected because I didn't see that they were abused. I'm open to protecting them if they become a place of warring edits or vandalism. Let me know if you want additional pages protected. Kmdenmark (talk) 19:13, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
Thanks, can you do the rest? These are the ones agreed with User:JaimeS, who suggested some due to previous issues I wasn't aware of. There's also been some removal of info from some that wasn't described in edit summaries and has no justification. Njt (talk) 22:09, September 20, 2019 (EDT)
Let me double check with Jamie. Kmdenmark (talk) 11:10, September 21, 2019 (EDT)

Ban requests (spam/promotional)[edit source | reply | new]

Please ban thanks User:Kmdenmark Njt (talk) 06:49, September 20, 2019 (EDT)

Smiley face ThanksNjt (talk) 15:45, September 20, 2019 (EDT)

Ban request - spammer[edit source | reply | new]

New spammer appeared Please ban as usual. Thanks notjusttired (talk) 08:30, September 18, 2019 (EDT)

Done! Kmdenmark (talk) ::Thanks!Njt (talk) 06:49, September 20, 2019 (EDT)

Ways to contribute etc[edit source | reply | new]

Can you please create these system messages User:Kmdenmark? Thanks notjusttired (talk) 10:44, September 5, 2019 (EDT)

Done! Kmdenmark (talk) 12:43, September 5, 2019 (EDT)

Great, thanks! :-) User:Pyrrhus these now exist in English only. Perhaps you can start using these, then when the localization update extension is installed the translations will work automatically. The cookie statement and Developers text and links in the footer can be found here and set to match another system message, or replace with a dash to remove from footer. "Pages in need" could be changed to "Pages to improve". notjusttired (talk) 18:33, September 5, 2019 (EDT)
User:Notjusttired Actually, there’s no need to create these pages, thanks. The xml file that I sent User:Kmdenmark last week already contains all the translations. Besides, I had to change the name of the interface message pages to our own names so as not to conflict with the extension developers choice of “qbbrowse”, etc. Thanks again.
Pyrrhus (talk) 20:21, September 5, 2019 (EDT)
User:Notjusttired Please note that the sidebar translations are all done, so you don’t have to worry about the sidebar at all. We’re just waiting for last week’s xml import and other admin tasks at user:Pyrrhus/AdminRequests. These admin requests will take time, and none of them are urgent.
Pyrrhus (talk) 20:39, September 5, 2019 (EDT)
The idea behind this was to pull in messages for an extension we don't use, and to have those messages in many languages rather than just the few chosen ones. But it you don't think that's important we can leave it. "Ways to contribute" is not for the sidebar but for "How to contribute" pages or the footer notjusttired (talk) 21:01, September 5, 2019 (EDT)
User:Notjusttired That makes sense. Maybe they’ll come in handy some day. I really like your idea of replacing the footer developer message with “-“ to prevent it from showing up! By the way, we’re technically not supposed to use “int:” inside the text of a mainspace page, since content pages are supposed to follow the page content language setting, not the reader’s preferred language setting. The page content language setting is reflected in the “/de” suffix to the page, but “int:” follows the reader’s preferred language setting. It is the job of the Polyglot extension to match these two settings where possible, but the two settings will not always be the same. Hope this is clear.
Pyrrhus (talk) 21:35, September 5, 2019 (EDT)
Footer links can also be changed, so we could redirect people it to how to contribute to MEpedia instead. I will have to get my head around what you said about main content pages another day I think. notjusttired (talk) 17:53, September 6, 2019 (EDT)

Older messages[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! If you have some free time, could you please replace the text in MediaWiki:Licenses with the following, without the <pre> tags. This will help us determine if it is possible to internationalize the descriptions in the page. (Two different methods are compared here.)

Text for MediaWiki:Licenses

* Unknown_copyright|I don't know exactly
* CC-by-nc-4.0|I created this and anyone can copy it but don't alter it, and credit me as the author 
* CC-by-sa-3.0|I created this and anyone can alter or copy it, but credit me as the author
* CC-zero|I created this and I don’t care what anyone does to it, no one has to credit me as the author 

* Free licenses:
** PD|Public domain
** PD-USGov|Public domain US Government
** GFDL|GFDL: GNU Free Documentation License
** LGPL|LGPL: GNU Lesser General Public License
** FAL|Free Art License (
** CC-zero|Creative Commons Zero (public domain)

* CC Share-Alike:
** CC-by-sa-4.0|Creative Commons ShareAlike 4.0
** CC-by-sa-3.0|Creative Commons ShareAlike 3.0
** CC-by-sa-2.5|Creative Commons ShareAlike 2.5
** CC-by-sa-2.0|Creative Commons ShareAlike 2.0

* CC Attribution only:
** CC-by-4.0|Creative Commons Attribution 4.0
** CC-by-3.0|Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
** CC-by-2.5|Creative Commons Attribution 2.5
** CC-by-2.0|Creative Commons Attribution 2.0

* CC other:
** CC-by-nc-4.0|CC NonCommercial 4.0
** CC-by-nc-3.0|CC NonCommercial 3.0
** CC-by-nc-2.5|CC NonCommercial 2.5
** CC-by-nc-2.0|CC NonCommercial 2.0
** CC-by-nc-nd-4.0|CC NonCommercial No-Derivs 4.0
** CC-by-nd-4.0|CC No-Derivs 4.0

* Other:
** Fair_Use_License|Fair Use: Please explain the copyright exception (e.g. scholarship/research)
** Other_license|Other: Please leave detailed explanation

Done Kmdenmark (talk) 12:44, August 26, 2019 (EDT)
Thanks Kmdenmark! We have now tried a couple different ways to internationalize MediaWiki:Licenses, but sadly none of them worked.  :( I guess we now have to revert it back to its original contents. I have reverted the contents in the above "Text for MediaWiki:Licenses". If you have a moment, could you use the above to revert the page back to its original contents? Thanks!
Pyrrhus (talk) 22:10, August 27, 2019 (EDT)
Pyrrhus, How far do you want me to rollback changes? I reverted the page to how it was on Aug 20. Kmdenmark (talk) 14:38, August 28, 2019 (EDT)
Hi Kmdenmark. You can just use the version in the above collapsed text or just revert to this one from 1:35pm 20 August 2019:
Thanks so much!
Pyrrhus (talk) 17:14, August 28, 2019 (EDT)
Hope it's right, Kmdenmark (talk) 17:45, August 28, 2019 (EDT)
Perfect! Thanks Kmdenmark! I also have more translations for the lefthand sidebar to be imported. The import file was quite long, so I sent it to you over Slack. (These sorts of files are best shared over Slack because the foreign language characters may get corrupted if you tried to copy-and-paste it from MEpedia to your word processing program.) This file import is not urgent at all.
Cheers, Pyrrhus (talk) 18:00, August 28, 2019 (EDT)

Interwiki table update (completed!)[edit source | reply | new]

Thanks Karen, for so quickly updating those two messages! And thanks for semi-protecting all those MEpedia documentation pages! Much appreciated. I have a question: when you go to the page Special:Interwiki, is there an option for admins to add new entries to the Interwiki table? If so, we would like to add the following new entries so that links in standard interface messages don't show up as red links:

Prefix URL

Pyrrhus (talk) 13:40, August 13, 2019 (EDT)

Pyrrhus You're very welcome. Thanks for your work in making the site better. I was able to edit the table as requested. Kmdenmark (talk) 14:10, August 13, 2019 (EDT)
Smiley face Thank you You're my hero!
Pyrrhus (talk) 14:50, August 13, 2019 (EDT)

Translatewiki- can do also do an interwiki link for:

Prefix: translatewiki


This should mean that the translatewiki website links we have start working.Thanks notjusttired (talk) 08:55, August 23, 2019 (EDT)

Done Kmdenmark (talk) 12:40, August 26, 2019 (EDT)

Language code import / export request[edit source | reply | new]

Can try doing an export then import from WikiMedia's Commons, it should be very simple although I know you may not have done this before.
Purpose: to get language codes like "en", "fr", "es" into the system messages without doing them one by one, that should then let {{int:lang}} (test here should show "en" -en). This will come up with "en" or whatever language to use is using, so that we can get template messages translations displayed properly.


content hidden
{{collapse top}}
  • Save the file it creates on your computer
  • Go to Special:Import and pick the file you just saved, then import it.

It will tell you if it has worked or not, and if any of those files already existed it will say so (they don't need overwriting)

  • test here should show "en" rather than "lang" after - en)

I hope this instructions are clear and you feel OK with this. Assuming this works OK to show mean being able to create nearly 300 files in the next one, and should mean that the fr/es/de messages you are doing one by one could possibly be done this way m notjusttired (talk) 11:54, August 14, 2019 (EDT)

It didn't work. The message on the import page says: "Import failed: No pages to import." I tried several times. It was a great idea which will be very helpful if we can get it to work. Kmdenmark (talk) 13:56, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
It didn't work because the "MediaWiki:" prefix was missing from the page names. I have added the prefix to the list of pages above. It should now work. Hope this helps.
Pyrrhus (talk) 16:39, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
Pyrrhus, It seems to have worked! The page MediaWiki:Lang says "en," but the other pages either say the same letter combo in the page title or it is blank. I hope this helped with the project you are tackling. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:02, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
Awesome! That helps a lot. I'm surprised that some of the pages are blank. I will have to look into that...
Pyrrhus (talk) 17:09, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
Brilliant!!!!! It works!! Thank you User:Kmdenmark, and for your help User:Pyrrhus. Did any show up with errors, or did some just look blank? I noticed some are right to left languages, so the code wasn't where I expected. Wikipedia has over 400 language codes so it won't matter if some fail - as long as they aren't the popular ones (es, fr, de, nl, etc).
Can you do the same process for more languages, possibly splitting them up from B-M, then N-Z. May take a few minutes to run through. If there's an option to only show errors I would pick that one. The file of names is huge so will try and do as a subpage in my profile User_talk:Notjusttired/code. It will be easier to use the Edit menu, Select All or the Ctrl + A keys to highlight than rather than the mouse. notjusttired (talk) 17:26, August 14, 2019 (EDT)


The last file is a Javascript .js for - I can't remember why we need it but it's language related. It's from Wikipedia. Getting this far has seriously made my day!! Smiley face Thanks - Njt
You're right, notjusttired. The ones that look blank are just on the right side of the screen rather than the left.
Pyrrhus (talk) 17:39, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
Just in case it's not clear, User:Kmdenmark, Notjusttired is asking you to repeat the import, but using the list of pages on User_talk:Notjusttired/code. Just make sure that each page name is on a separate line and ignore the <pre> tags.
Pyrrhus (talk) 17:52, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
Pyrrhus, notjusttired Files upload done! I had to upload the files in small batches, but I think all the languages are uploaded. It looks as if user Slomox uploaded the files on January 24, 2009‎. I'm ready to help with the next project. Kmdenmark (talk) 11:28, August 19, 2019 (EDT)
Superb! It seems to have gone through perfectly User:Pyrrhus The next thing would be 2 changes to MediaWiki:Licenses described
  1. MediaWiki_talk:Licenses#Try_system_message on the talk page - the "Try system message" and the "Removing 3.5 licenses" ones (scroll down slightly for that.
  2. Then creating a few new shortcut ones MediaWiki_talk:Shortcut
  3. If you would rather do a long import like the Lang one then scroll down here for the See also one - I think it's around 200 entries but we are only likely to use /de /en /es /fr /nl /no - if you just wanted to do those 6 that would be fine.

Thanks for your super work today. When I checked Recent Changes in MediaWiki there was just one entry - 200 imports from you! notjusttired (talk) 16:18, August 19, 2019 (EDT)

My pleasure! I'm happy to help. Kmdenmark (talk) 15:43, August 20, 2019 (EDT)

See also translations[edit source | reply | new]

notjusttired, Done! Kmdenmark (talk) 15:35, August 20, 2019 (EDT)
Click Expand for the list of pages:
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Spammers[edit source | reply | new]

That was quick spotting the spam account this morning. Would you mind blocking 2 more spammers, we've (or probably you) have already erased the ads on their user pages - User:Xfsconnect and User:Healtone. I did ask Jaime but she's in a crash. notjusttired (talk) 11:03, August 14, 2019 (EDT)

Done Kmdenmark (talk) 13:51, August 14, 2019 (EDT)
Thanks again! You have been a very busy bee today. :-)

Pivot.css[edit source | reply | new]

Hi, I've just realized I had requests for multiple bits of code all over MediaWiki_talk:Pivot.css and didn't realize. Can you scroll nearly to the bottom, then do the "recent changes" ones (not the footer one)? It's right at the end of a very long conversation. Also thanks for doing the catlinks change earlier today. notjusttired (talk) 16:10, August 12, 2019 (EDT)

notjusttired, Done. Let me know if correct. Kmdenmark (talk) 10:54, August 13, 2019 (EDT)

Foreign language support[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! I hope you're doing okay! Njt & I are starting to think about foreign language support, since a user started creating German pages. As part of foreign language support, there are just a few short pages that an admin needs to create. Okay, more than a few, but they are definitely short. And there's absolutely no hurry. If you could help out with creating these pages, it would be "wunderbar"!!!
Pyrrhus (talk) 00:28, August 9, 2019 (EDT)

I'm good, thx. Hope you are, too. I'm starting the pages now. It shouldn't take too long. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:17, August 10, 2019 (EDT)
Thanks Karen! In case it's not obvious, these changes make the sidebar show up correctly in French, Spanish, and German. When you're done, you can see the fruits of your labor by changing your language preference in Special:Preferences. Again, there's no hurry and feel free to let me know if you consider any of my requests to be too burdensome! Thanks again!
Pyrrhus (talk) 22:33, August 10, 2019 (EDT)

Here are the pages which need to be created:

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(Note: all created but some use different names, see Category:Interface explanation. ~Njt (talk))

Angus Mackay / Mackay[edit source | reply | new]

Angus Mackay is a PhD student in New Zealand and both the university and science publications spell her surname in inconsistent ways. I can't find out which is right, but either way we are linking to both. Can you use Replace text to change Angus Mackay to Angus Mackay (surname all in lowercase) so at least she won't appear on the wanted pages list because of different spellings. Thanks notjusttired (talk) 08:51, July 22, 2019 (EDT)

Done Kmdenmark (talk) 15:33, July 24, 2019 (EDT)

July 2019 - Portals[edit source | reply | new]

Thanks for both those changes today! Can you also update the main page - the link to the History and People Portal is going to a redirect. I left a message on the talk page. Also we have some new templates for communicating - {{Done}} {{Thank}} and {{Thank you}} notjusttired (talk) 16:09, July 17, 2019 (EDT)

I think I did it. I did something, hope it is right. LOL Kmdenmark (talk) 17:36, July 17, 2019 (EDT)
The news change on the History and People page is great. Can you also do the 2 links from the main page that go to the History and People Portal? There's a comment on the main page's talk page at the bottom. thanks notjusttired (talk) 09:08, July 22, 2019 (EDT)

June 2018 message[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! Hope you’re doing well. I was wondering if you could help out with a few things?

  1. Update this page to use a lowercase “Terms of use”: MediaWiki talk:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning
  2. Update this page according to the June 8 request: MediaWiki talk:Common.css
  3. Update this page according to the June 14 request: MediaWiki talk:Licenses
  4. Copy the contents of user:Pyrrhus/SideBar to MediaWiki:Sidebar

Please let me know if you have any questions! Thanks!
Pyrrhus (talk) 13:42, June 17, 2019 (EDT)

User:Pyrrhus I'm fine, thank you. Hope you are doing well, too. The tasks are done to the best of my ability. Again, I'm writing this with fingers-crossed that I did it correctly. You are putting out great work. Thanks for all you do. Kmdenmark (talk) 18:19, June 17, 2019 (EDT)
You're the best, Karen! Thanks! You should probably be careful about typing with fingers crossed- I'm not so sure about the ergonomics of that! ;)
Pyrrhus (talk) 20:26, June 17, 2019 (EDT)
User:Pyrrhus LOL!!! Kmdenmark (talk) 17:03, June 18, 2019 (EDT)

Fixing "Reference needed"[edit source | reply | new]

Can you use the replace thing to change <ref>Reference needed</ref> and [[Reference needed]] with {{Citation needed}} . Thank you. notjusttired (talk) 17:08, July 9, 2019 (EDT)

Do you mean change the tags as I come across [1] and Reference needed in articles that I'm editing or do you mean start a project of finding and replacing all the tags. If the later, maybe I can use the 'replace text' app. Kmdenmark (talk) 15:19, July 10, 2019 (EDT)
I messed up the formatting above, hopefully it now makes more sense. I was wanting you to use the Replace Text to be used for all pages.I change it when I see it bit unless you read the page carefully they are easy to miss in the text notjusttired (talk) 18:35, August 1, 2019 (EDT)
User:Notjusttired I did the replace text page with [[Reference needed]] and the page returned:
'No pages were found containing the string "[[Reference needed]]".'
Pyrrhus (talk) 00:18, October 6, 2019 (EDT)

old request[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! Hope you’re doing well and resting, etc. I just wanted to let you know two things:

  1. I started a first draft of an Admin guide at MEpedia:Admin guide. Feel free to review, correct or add to as appropriate!
  2. With a recent developer change, moving a page now moves any redirects pointing to that page as well! No more need to worry about double redirects after a move!

Cheers! Pyrrhus (talk) 18:39, 16 May 2019 (EDT)

User:Pyrrhus Thanks for letting me know. The Admin guide looks good. Where you wrote "(is this right?)," I believe it is correct. Loving that redirects are automatic now! Hope all is well with you, Kmdenmark (talk) 18:56, 16 May 2019 (EDT)

Separate Site Notices[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! I realized that we can have separate site notices at the top of the screen for logged-in users and for non-logged-in users. This will be helpful if we want to distribute an urgent message to all contributors, but not have it be seen by the public. To do this, could you please:

  1. Copy the contents of user:Pyrrhus/Anonnotice to MediaWiki:Anonnotice (this will be the site notice for the public)
  2. Copy the contents of user:Pyrrhus/Sitenotice to MediaWiki:Sitenotice (this is where admins can place a notice to all contributors)

I hope this makes sense. Please let me know if you have any questions!
Pyrrhus (talk) 18:17, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know. I need a lot of hand holding with programming. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Kmdenmark (talk) 13:17, 27 April 2019 (EDT)

thanks![edit source | reply | new]

Thanks Karen for fixing all my double redirects! I was meaning to get to them, but you beat me to it!
Pyrrhus (talk) 21:44, 23 April 2019 (EDT)

No problem, Pyrrhus! Happy to help. Kmdenmark (talk) 15:27, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

ReplaceText extension[edit source | reply | new]

I'm considering asking for the ReplaceText extension to be added - which would be restricted to only certain editors (like yourself). What it would do is when a page was renamed, it would allow you to search for all links to that page and replace them with the new page name. You could also use this for replacing category names or fixing common spelling mistakes. Using it would involve putting in the actual code for what you want to replace, eg Category:Old Cat being replaced with Category:New cat. It would do this across ALL pages, so there's the chance of it going wrong I wondered your thoughts on this and whether you would be likely to use it. 08:33, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

I'm not Karen, but I did just rename a category. It wasn't fun to go through all pages in the category to manually update the category name. If we will be renaming categories in the future, which I suspect we might, this extension will come in very handy. It might even be safer than trying to do the renaming manually. My 1.5 cents. :)
Pyrrhus (talk) 21:19, 17 April 2019 (EDT)
Notjusttired and Pyrrhus - That tool would be very helpful! I wholeheartedly support it being added. I already can think of ways I could use it. Thank you Kmdenmark (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
Great, I'll ask for it, I've already asked for a few things through User:JaimeS notjusttired (talk) 18:09, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
Thumbs up!
Special:ReplaceText is now installed and both bureaucrats and admins like yourself should have access. notjusttired (talk) 19:44, June 3, 2019 (EDT)
User:Notjusttired Great! I think I stumbled on it while revising a page yesterday! Kmdenmark (talk) 10:51, June 4, 2019 (EDT)
Suggestions for using ReplaceText. 1) Replace <ref>Ref needed</ref> with {{Citation needed}} (there may not be any), and 2) <ref>Reference needed</ref> with {{Citation needed}} , (but without the nowiki bits) - example Histamine#References Reference 1. This should add citation needed to the relevant pages, and bits that look referenced but aren't.

notjusttired (talk) 19:10, June 6, 2019 (EDT)

User:Notjusttired So cool! 20:58, June 6, 2019 (EDT)

Tasks[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! I was wondering if you could help us out with a few easy admin fixes. They're not urgent, but it sure would be nice to get them fixed:

  1. The "New User Message" that is left on the talk pages of new users was accidentally placed in the wrong page. We have moved it to the correct location in Template:Welcome. If you could delete the old page at MediaWiki:Newusermessage-template it would be much appreciated. (As long as the old page still exists, the server will inappropriately parse the "New User Message".)
  2. The Category:MEpedia guidelines has evolved to include all MEpedia documentation, so I renamed it to Category:MEpedia documentation. There are 3 protected pages that need their category updated from Category:MEpedia guidelines to Category:MEpedia documentation:
    1. MEpedia:Copyrights
    2. MEpedia:General_disclaimer
    3. MEpedia:About
  3. The first sentence in the Contents page says "See a condensed version of this page." This links to Contents (condensed), which was an outdated relic from the time when the Contents page was the main page, and some people found it too long to read. Now that we have a 'new' main page, we don't need the condensed version, which was terribly outdated anyway. If you could remove that first sentence from the Contents page, it would be much appreciated. (Contents (condensed) is now a redirect to Contents.)
  4. We have a new version of the sidebar links on the lefthand side of the screen. This new version includes new links and separates out links intended for the public and links intended for contributors. All that now needs to be done is to copy-and-paste the contents of User:Pyrrhus/MediaWikiSidebar into MediaWiki:Sidebar. If you could do this copy-and-paste it would be much appreciated! (I have saved the current contents of MediaWiki:Sidebar in User:Pyrrhus/OldMediaWikiSidebar just in case something goes wrong and we need to revert back.)

Thank you so much for all your help!
Pyrrhus (talk) 22:57, 12 April 2019 (EDT)

Pyrrhus - Made the changes you requested. Let me know if you would like additional changes. Thanks for all your hard work to improve the site. Kmdenmark (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2019 (EDT)
Wow, thanks Karen! You just made my Monday, I’m thrilled. I obviously need to get out more.  ;)
Pyrrhus (talk) 16:34, 15 April 2019 (EDT)

Hi. It looks like you are busy added some much needed categories. There's now a page outline for categories that identifies wanted pages and stubs that need expanding - MEpedia_article_outlines#Categories. If need categories can be added to existing categories that will make them easier to find and easier to browse the larger categories - eg new category Category:Neurological disorders can now be found easily from Category:Diagnoses.

The Contents page contains the main categories but anything not suitable as a subcategory of those can be requested to be added (I've asked for the new Ethics category to be added).

notjusttired (talk) 09:19, 25 March 2019 (EDT)

Looks good. I believe it will be very helpful. Thank you. Kmdenmark (talk)

Admin fixes[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Karen! I was wondering if you could help with the following two admin fixes:

  1. Can you make Template:Welcome protected so that only admins can change it? (I noticed a potential problem where new users might accidentally alter the New User Message.)
  2. Can you update the lefthand sidebar to include a link to the Guidelines? All you have to do is copy the contents of MediaWiki talk:Sidebar to MediaWiki:Sidebar.
Did it (hopefully), Pyrrhus! Let me know if it's correct. Again, thank you for all your work. Each improvement helps so much. Kmdenmark (talk) 13:26, 26 April 2019 (EDT)
Perfect! Thanks!
Pyrrhus (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

Hi, I know you're working a lot on pages in the Outbreaks category at the moment... I have the book Postviral Fatigue Syndrome: The Saga of Royal Free disease by Melvin Ramsay and it's got a whole chapter on outbreaks. I think it's worth buying or I can scan in the relevant pages for you if you'd like? I'm working on other categories on MEpedia so I don't see myself getting round to doing the outbreaks pages any time soon. --Samsara (talk) 04:30, 18 October 2016 (PDT)

Thank you so much for the offer. I would love the scanned pages, but only if it's not too much for you. I've been trying to find contemporaneous articles for the outbreaks but they are often too old to be online (or in another language). I figured that eventually I would try inter-library loans to get more resources to fill in more detail. Take your time about doing it. There are plenty of other topics that I can write about in the meantime. Kmdenmark (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2016 (PDT)
I will get the scans for you done over Christmas as I'll have lots of free time then! --Samsara (talk) 07:28, 1 December 2016 (PST)
Thank you! No hurries, no worries!

Hi Kmdenmark,

I see a page that needs a MOVE, but I am not sure how to do it. I checked out the information and I am not getting it. Another User found that Rich Carlson should be Rich Carson. The name in the page was changed but of course the actual page needs to be moved from Rich Carlson to Rich Carson.

Thanks!--MEcfsFMS (talk) 09:48, 11 August 2018 (EDT)

Hi MEcfsFMS, The move button was turned off to everyone but admins. So if you ever want a page moved, just flag me, Ollie, Jamie or Jen. I went to the misspelled Rich Carson page and changed the "redirect" instruction to "marked for deletion." Ollie checks the list of articles flagged for deletion and deletes them at one sitting. Add this category to any page you want deleted - Category:Articles for deletion and it will be looked at by Ollie.
I'm glad you are back on MEpedia. Kmdenmark (talk) 16:27, 11 August 2018 (EDT)

Hi Kmdenmark,

So, I uploaded several files I created because I couldn't get the colors, sizing, and text correct. I finally did get it right but now there are several files out there to delete. I can't figure out where all the uploaded files are. lol Anyway, just don't delete this one: Fibromyalgia Comorbids and Overlapping Conditions.JPG

I think there will be five for you to delete. They all pretty much look the same but I can't remember their exact names but they are all like, Fibro comorbids and variations of that. I think I started around 4 PM? with the first upload.

Thanks again!--MEcfsFMS (talk) 00:46, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

Thanks, Km, I keep forgetting I need to run deletes by Ollie. Appreciate your getting back to me.--MEcfsFMS (talk) 11:16, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

Hey. I've just found a typo in a reference give added to several pages. I thought I had best left you know - I've corrected the original study page plus Carmine Pariante and Alice Russell but not any others. The problem is that author Matthew Hopopf - his last name is actually Hotopf - the authorlink is correct just not the last name.

This reference will also change in 2019 when a volume, issue number and page numbers are avaliable, so I had been linking to the source instead.

Thanks for your work on related pages today.


notjusttired (talk) 14:37, 19 December 2018 (EST)

Thanks for letting me know. Will look at it now. Hope all is well. Kmdenmark (talk) 19 December 2018 (EDT)

Handling misspelled names[edit source | reply | new]

Hi and thanks for catching those misspelled names! The help is much appreciated. I'm wondering if there's a reason you prefer to delete the misspelled pages rather than leave them as redirects to the correct names. That's generally the practice for dealing with common misspellings on Wikipedia, for instance, in case a reader makes the same mistake, or another editor does--that way, the person or the link will automatically be directed to the correct page. E.g. right now deleting Zach Shan would leave three broken links, which we can and should fix (I'll take care of it!), but leaving the redirect up ensures that if anyone making the same mistake in the future, the link will still send readers to the correct entry. Does that sounqd ok to you? Thanks much. Canele (talk) 20:03, 16 January 2019 (EST)

Michael Beadsworth[edit source | reply | new]

Csn the Mike Beadsworth page be the main one, with Michael Beadsworth the redirect? Professionally he uses the name Mike far more.


notjusttired (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Sure, sounds good. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2019 (EST)

CS1 Error Uses authors parameter[edit source | reply | new]

I see there is a CS1 Error for a PDF IOM Report I entered. I saw the authors come up when I entered the citation but it did not seem to "load" the name in the author field as a blue link. But, I did not pay much attention. So, I just updated and then of course changed all the appropriate pages with this same iformation.

Now, what I am trying to figure out is will the citation not take Authors on a PDF or is there some other reason? What would be the best fix? I tried putting in this link for the citation on the SEID page using this website: http: but it did not fix the issue.

I will fix all the pages but I just need to know what you think is the best fix for this. Maybe it is temporary and authors just are not loading on citations right now?--MEandCFS (talk) 15:25, 29 January 2019 (EST)

I had made the changes for these pages under See also heading for the SEID criteria citation.--MEandCFS (talk) 15:28, 29 January 2019 (EST)

My apologies, MEandCFS, I have no background in programming, so I don't know what or why anything on MEpedia works. LOL. I usually just play around with it like you did until I get the desired results. Kmdenmark (talk) 20:09, 29 January 2019 (EST)

Categories for UK politicians[edit source | reply | new]

Hi. Can you avoid removing politicians from the categories for political parties? This is crucial information for advocacy and not held elsewhere. Labour/Co-op members are considered members of both parties so need to be in more than one category. Keeping them as categories allows someone to look for UK adbocates, then use the subcategories to find just politicians for political parties or fod which committee they are on - one committee is investigating the PACE trial Parties cover both MPs and the unelected House of Lords.

Also please don't mark redirects for deletion - they are there to help from the correctly spelled page - searching the incorrect name means MEpedia then find the correct page name too. notjusttired (talk) 13:06, 7 February 2019 (EST)

New Category Page[edit source | reply | new]


I think we need a new Category Page called "Mental Health" for pages like Munchausen syndrome by proxy and the yet to be created page Mental health which at this time is a red link.

I don't know how to create category pages and you might want to name the category page something else.

Thanks for your help.-- 10:55, 14 February 2019 (EST)

Good idea. Let me research what wikipedia calls their mental health categories Kmdenmark (talk) 11:57, 14 February 2019 (EST)

Category for 'Intimidation of PACE' critics page[edit source | reply | new]


I know I can't figure out a category for this page. Intimidation of PACE critics

Can you? lol Tag, your it!--MEandCFS (talk) 09:12, 21 February 2019 (EST)

Categories for Books[edit source | reply | new]


I am not certain if the word "Genre" should be used for all the books genres already created. I saw there was "Memoir" and "Genre" fiction so I set up "Genre psychology" but, perhaps the latter only need to be "Fiction" or "Psychology" or "Memoir" should be "Genre memoir". I think genre is a good idea as I would like to find books under "History" quickly.

Then, of course, a genre would have to be set up for all the book pages out there and the new genre category linked to the "Books" category. ahem...I know I don't care to do that project. : )

But, I figure I would bring it to your attention that we should at least make a decision on how to set up the genre page we have, by the word Genre attached or not.

Hope what I just wrote makes sense.-- 17:16, 22 February 2019 (EST)

I am thinking Genre needs to be included. For instance, Osler's Web and Thirty Years of Disdain both have "History" and they ended up here.
Perhaps they should be on the "History" category page, but without "Genre history" we can't create a subgroup for the category "Books".-- 18:46, 22 February 2019 (EST)
I agree. I think it works better to have a descriptor in the category that denotes books, such as, Category:Genre psychology or Category:Psychology books. 'Psychology' and 'History' are too broad a topic to stand alone. Please feel free to make whatever changes you think improves the site. If later you don't like it or someone thinks of something better, we can easily change it again. My best, Kmdenmark (talk) 19:05, 22 February 2019 (EST)

User Paulitasofia1 uploading images without licenses, citations on images make no sense[edit source | reply | new]

Paulitasofia1 keeps uploading images without licenses and the citations used on the images make no sense. They go to a generic PET page on Science Direct.

I did contact this user before when they uploaded to the POTS page without a license and gave an example on how to do so.

Also, one image with a citation is from a page with copyrights; I have removed it from the PET page and marked the upload for deletion.

The second, third, and fourth images with citations #2,4, and 5 are all generic Science Direct pages and did not, as far as I can see, come from this study.

The user will either need to be blocked or blocked from uploading images. Also, can we stop images from being uploaded unless a license is selected? And, I don't think we should be able to select the option on image license of "Not Certain" or whatever that option is.

I don't see how we can keep these images up. Most may be from Wikimedia but now we have to go back and properly cite and license them.

Image number six has been properly cited as I found the correct full text but I will have to put a license on it when I find it.--MEandCFS (talk) 11:39, 27 February 2019 (EST)

Let me see if I can find out what to do. Thanks for letting me know. My best, Kmdenmark (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2019 (EST)
While we wait for an admin to take action:
1)you can leave a brief explanation on the article's talk page for that article saying "image removed - no license" or "awaiting permission for use of image." You don't have to fix it yourself. (I'm wondering if s/he doesn't know to check his/her messages on his/her user page.)
2)you can tag the page
3) both  :)

Pages for deletion (old Portal pages) -- notjusttired (talk) 19:11, July 5, 2019 (EDT)[edit source | reply | new]

I marked some pages for deletion today. Can you wait maybe a week before deleting just in case I made a mistake? I've blanked the pages and tested and it seems OK. Strangely there are still some links somewhere looking for subpages of the Heart and Brain Portals that no longer exist. notjusttired (talk) 19:11, July 5, 2019 (EDT)

User:Notjusttired Yes, of course, no problem. Kmdenmark (talk) 16:38, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Cleanup templates[edit source | reply | new]

Hi. I was wondering how you were doing after not seeing you around for a little while. Are you OK-ish?

With the cleanup templates like the tidy one, I'm planning to create slight variations on the templates with a reason already filled in for each. So that's why Tidy was going to Cleanup/Tidy citations. Currently there is just Cleanup and Template:Cleanup/POV finished. The idea is that we will be able to categorize things by the reason for the cleanup by picking it right from the menu in the Visual editor, and it should save time typing in reasons too. I think there's a discussion on Template_talk:Cleanup. notjusttired (talk) 18:01, July 30, 2019 (EDT)

I'm doing well, thanks, for now. ;) You know, I'm sure, the up and down nature of the illness. I hope you are doing well, too.
Regarding the templates: Sounds good. Thanks for doing it. Kmdenmark (talk) 14:10, August 1, 2019 (EDT)

-- 10:36, September 3, 2019 (EDT)[edit source | reply | new]

Hi Kmdenmark,

FYI. You can use an image from a newspaper article when the image goes along with it. The NY Times article Brains of People With Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Offer Clues About Disorder has the brain images. So, when noting the article here: or if the article is on the Primer page, that image can be used. It can't be used without the article.

Please, get the image back on the page about the article and on the Primers. -- 10:36, September 3, 2019 (EDT)

The image has been restored. May I say whom am I speaking to? Kmdenmark (talk) 10:58, September 3, 2019 (EDT)

Malcx[edit source | reply | new]

Hi, Malcx is not contributing anything. Their only purpose seems to be to troll, harass and vandalize; probably what they have done on Wikipedia before. I'd appreciate a speedy end to their access to this project. Thanks in advance, Guido den Broeder (talk) 13:33, September 14, 2019 (EDT)

Re: Malcx -- Kmdenmark (talk) 17:04, September 16, 2019 (EDT)[edit source | reply | new]

New guidelines are being discussed among leadership in hopes to resolve such editing issues. Stay tuned. Kmdenmark (talk) 17:04, September 16, 2019 (EDT)

Notjusttired‎[edit source | reply | new]

I am requesting a topic ban / interaction ban for notjusttired, who stalks me to every page I edit and vandalizes them by making error upon error, not heeding my repeated requests to stop. Guido den Broeder (talk) 16:19, September 15, 2019 (EDT)

See also here where they are stating that creating conditions to allow ME patients to edit comfortably is ridiculous, and wish to force everyone to use their style of preference. Guido den Broeder (talk) 18:07, September 15, 2019 (EDT)
  1. Reference needed

New template[edit source | reply | new]

Can you let me know if this is OK Template:Blocked/doc#Examples. I changed from "temporarily banned" to just "banned" then it can be used for permanent bans. But it's easy to create a different template for a permanent ban if you would prefer. There is still a minor layout tweak to move the text away from the image but it's fine to use as it is. Also see Template:Unwanted_edits, so far not used. notjusttired (talk) 18:19, September 17, 2019 (EDT) Update: Finished notjusttired (talk) 18:41, September 17, 2019 (EDT)

ME/CFS Page Needs Small Edit -- Loopy (talk) 10:34, October 10, 2019 (EDT)[edit source | reply | new]


I just need to let you know that the caption for Carol Head's image needs to state she is "former" CEO.



✓ Done Thanks for letting me know, Loopy. Kmdenmark (talk) 15:01, October 10, 2019 (EDT)